'The Runners' by Cthulhu

[Quaker2k9]

Don't recall the line in question at the moment but in my opinion, it's a bit different when it's a movie quote. Quotes are references and have to be put also into the context of the piece of art they refer to which in some cases...... uh, what was I going to say? Well I don't mind rude language too much, while I do understand that some people have a problem with it.

But then... "I'm gonna deep-fry your guts" isn't that nice either and the player says that to the Retros all the time...
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[VincentFirePony]

Now I own both definitive versions of Blade Runner and The Running Man I like them both but how people could confuse a quest titled "The Runners" with The Running Man I'll never know... Sigh... My hats off to you for making a good quest... I like it. Here's what I've gathered of the nods to other stories from this quest so far:

Commander Jameson = ?
Nexus-6 = Blade Runner
Leon Kowalksi,Zhora, JF Sebastian= Blade Runner
Admiral Piett = Star Wars
Insys = Sounds familiar but can't place it... Lol...
Gully Foyle? = ???
Enoch Wallace = ??
 

[Quaker2k9]

I'm with you there with the recognized references... Except that I have one more:

Nomad = Star Trek TOS (renegade space probe destroying stuff)

The "Tiger" poem Nomad quotes is quite popular, and it is also quoted prominently in the intro to Westwood's circa-1998 adventure genre computer game Blade Runner (which, by the way, I consider a real gem. Maybe not the right thing for every die-hard BR fan, but certainly a very nice computer game). The other quote in the Nomad ship dialogue I didn't recognize.
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[Flyboy]

True, it was a quote, but it was an obscene one and unnecessary to use. As to the context, this quote was an obscene one whether or not you put it in context. If you recall, I objected to some rude/obscene language in part 1 of "A lady in trouble". However, it was of a different nature so my objection was also of a different nature. My objection to that was simply crude/bad language, my objection to this is of a different matter entirely, which is why I had a different basis for objection. Again if you recall, my basis for objection to language used in "A lady in trouble" was simply obscene and unnecessary language. I made my basis of objection clear then, and I made it clear again in this incident. I thought it unfair to criticize somebody's work without saying why, which is why in both cases I said why I was bothered.

My point in saying all this is that what I said that Christian found offensive was not my argument, but instead my basis for objection.

True, threatening Retros that is rude, but in a different way, in that it isn't obscene or vulgar.

Christian, again I apologize for offending you, my intent was to provide my basis for objection, not to use that for an argument.
 

[VincentFirePony]

Cool... I don't want to give anything abt the quest away any more than I have... but I'm to the point where I'm fighting off two of them grr! got one then the other got me... Don't try to shoot someone on the other side of town when they attack you... Sigh...
 

[Cthulhu]

I'm glad you liked my quest. I think we should start of with the following words:

BEWARE THE REST OF THIS DISCUSSION IS A COMPLETE SPOILER FOR THE QUEST "The Runners".

Now, that being said, let us discuss the higher things in life, namely, movie quotes and science fiction. For the Commander Jameson character, you need only look to the left at my Avatar (Elite, amazing game! see Other 'Classic' Space Exploration Games.)

Now as for the "Insys" you have me confused. I'm afraid I don't really follow, unless I misspelled something in my quest?

The first verse of the Poem is by William Blake, and used in the game Blade Runner, but also in the book "The Stars my Destination" (aka. "Tiger! Tiger!") by Alfred Bester, written in 1956 about the Nomad Gully Foyle who spends some time in the asteroid belts. The second verse is only from that book, and written by the author. I thought it fitting since in that book the author uses ASCII-art! Well, almost, towards the end he has the lines attacking you from the page in a very psychedelic way, and the lines spiral and wiggle all over the pages, and form stars and whatnot. It is a fantastic book, definitely recommended, unfortunately Alfred Bester only wrote two successful/good science fiction books, the other being "The Demolished man".

But "The Nomad" could be from Star Trek as well, good catch there Quaker2k9.

Now Enoch Wallace is a very tricky one. It's from the 1964 Hugo award winning book "Way Station" by Clifford D. Simak. The book is highly recommended. It's a very nice Space Opera novel, and part of the story is about Enoch who has been alone for a century and finally becomes friend with his neighbor. (not J.F. Sebastian though...). (Don't worry, I haven't spoiled the story of the book in any way)

Well, Rutger Hauer is also from Blade Runner, but from real life, since he actually played Roy Batty. But in the quest I have him as a henchman, perhaps a pirate fighting the good cause? Well, I needed two guys for the Player and Roy to shoot at, so I put Pris and Rutger on the job.

As for Sergeant Smith, who will jump you if you don't accept to kill Zhora, he is who ever you want it to be.


hmmm, perhaps this thread should be moved to the actual discussion of the quest?[url][/url]
 

[Cthulhu]

OK, I don't think anyone else on this forum except me and Flyboy knows what the line being discussed is, and the way is sounds from the description so far, with it being referred to av vulgar and obscene, I feel it should be brought to public viewing, lest I'm to be thought of as a foul deviant pervert.
So again, I hope this won't upset you as it now actually is a discussion, and therefore not a unintentional (mis)use of his name.

[Christian Knudsen]

Just for general information, I do not consider that offensive nor vulgar, so I wouldn't refrain from posting a quest with language like that. I respect other people's views, but there are limits to how much I'll censor myself and others to accommodate the few. (Note for example that certain words are automatically censored on the boards.)
 

[Christian Knudsen]

[Quaker2k9]

[Flyboy]

Thanks for being understanding, Cthulhu. I apologize if I was too hard on you. My intent was certainly not to damage your reputation or personally attack you, but to comment on the quote in the quest.

Again, thank you for being understanding.
 

[VincentFirePony]

I enjoyed the quest. It gives variety from the backwater planets to the big city. Good use of the in-game laws so it doesn't hurt your record. One or two of the references I didn't catch but its ok. Overall, 4/5 and hope you write some more quests.
 

[Cthulhu]

Now I have to rewrite my quest to include the olsen twins...


 

[VincentFirePony]

LOL. That's too funny.
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[EliteRifle]

Nice Quest, I did rate a 3, but I still liked it.
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[Cthulhu]

Glad you played it, and liked it.
I'll probably need to update it at some point since a lot of new functions been added to the Quest language and the game itself since I wrote it.
I'm mainly thinking about the Nomad ship can't be boarded. (Well, if you do it will just have some random dude on board I guess).
 

[Cthulhu]

@Hussy001 Now I'm not sure what you're meaning? We're discussing a quest:
http://www.asciisector.net/forum/quests/ctha1.qst

and it's references to Blade Runner, as that was my main inspiration when I wrote it, some years ago. I'd recommend you to play the quest before reading the comments in this thread, but I suspect that is already too late.
 

[Christian Knudsen]

That was a spam post. I've deleted it.